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suzuri
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'cause it's been a while


lots of new shows have shown up in the last, what, about seven months?

However, I doubt most people are much interested in that. if you acctually feel the need to learn what new stuff is out there, it's not terribly difficult to discover it on your own. Instead I would like to poat about the random community associated with fansubs and the state of anime in America (that sounds too formal somehow. Ahh, well.)

The fansub community is comprised mostly of males aged 16-22. Most information is exchanged via iRC - a land of moving text and flexible naming practices. meaning someone can be anyone one minute and themself the next and no one would likely notice. This environment of wicked fast data exchange thinly veiled in anonimity lends itself not only to anime of a more germaine nature, but also 'hentai' or porn of the inked line. Being part of that teeny-tiny-one-half-of-one-percent-minority (female, over the age of 25, not in college) I have learned that I'm happier if I just point and laugh.

Bittorrent has also greatly affected the face of file exchange. No longer to you have to be a compete geek, understanding the finer points of ftp, emule, irc, newsgroups, or one of a host of group filesharing programs. BT is point and click. Anime files, running between 100 and 200Mb seem to be an ideal size for BT, taking thirty minutes to six hours to aquire. Also, the inital demand is very great, tapering off in as little as five days.

The fansub community is further shaped by the grey legality of it's existance. some BT sites stick very close to the credo of "if it has been licenced, it will not appear here" others not so much so. BT trackers come and go. gone in the night. re-appearing briefly and then disappearing.

With IRC, the servers themselves become targets. In most cases fansub groups dwell in different channels of the same server. The current home of the main groups is irc.rizon.net, formerly known as a haven for warez. The comminity moved there after irc.mircx.com went down in a flurry ddos attacks. Same reason the neucleous moved from irc.aniverse.com. While groups operating in the full light of day might have complained to someone about it, the fansub groups search out new digs.

huh. this is kinda starting to feel like a paper. if only I had something I wanted to write about in college....Guess I'll stop now.

 
on: Sun 11 of Jul, 2004 [16:50 UTC] score: 1.00 reads: 2698

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suzuri
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Re:'cause it's been a while
on: Sun 18 of Jul, 2004 [00:31 UTC] score: 0.00
If you truely want to see it, I bet I could dig up a copy. (found one)

And no, I don't scoff at decent, Well done dubs. Princess Mononoke was really good. I probably wouldn't have a problem with bebop. But I have seen some professional dubs that just kill the content. Seems the really bad dubs and really bad subs go hand in hand.




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martha
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on: Fri 16 of Jul, 2004 [20:51 UTC] score: 0.00
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I need to get a copy of such brilliance! But surely, you do not scoff at English versions of things like Cowboy Bebop. I know there are many purists out there that think it heresy to dub over the the Japanese voice actors, but the problem with that is mony don't find subtitles palletable.

I think a well done Fandub would not only gain popularity with the casual anime viewer, but gain respect among the true anime addicts as a decent interpretation of dialog. Its either this, or I'm going to MST3K animes... lol



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suzuri
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on: Fri 16 of Jul, 2004 [04:25 UTC] score: 0.00
Bah! Fandubbing is the work of those who wish pain - grueling, earbleeding pain - upon the unsuspecting masses.

I know. I've seen it happen.

It was Naruto. an otherwise alright, though wildly popular anime - indeed popular to the point of the rise of the 'narutard' - that drove this basic premise home for me. Aye, to the very core of my being.

A group of these Groupies put together a fandub of the first eppisode. When I first saw it available I thought, "huh, might be ok. I mean, those who made it care about the show," and "It probably won't be too bad...I'll give it a shot. After all, what harm can it do?"

Not two sentances into the opening I felt the tingling of danger. Yet I watched on. Over the course of the next sven out eight seconds my distaste grew. Still I managed to force my self to watch another twenty seconds thinking..."It hasn't even been a minute - I have to give it a chance!" then my ears began to bleed. I realized it had to end. It had to stop. However, most of my motor skills had been disruped by the cruel sonics. My inner ear was failing and I could only flail about in agony. Eventually I was able to stop the cruel progression by mashing my fists against random input devices on the stereo and key board. It took an hour before I was able to overcome my derision long enough to approach the computer and rid it of that most foul presence.

So. Know this:

While I may one day lend my voice to the sad, deplorable world of radio advertizing 'talent' - if only in an attempt to in some way contribute to that most neglected and pitiable nitche knowing I could cause no harm, only good, I would never stoop so low as to allow my none-too-dulcet-tones to grace a fandub.

(hmmm that last paragraph probably should have been broken down into more than one sentance...)


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martha
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on: Wed 14 of Jul, 2004 [16:09 UTC] score: 0.00
Haha!

I think fandubbing would be cool. Be the voice people come to associate with their most beloved characters or beviled villains. You could call random people up and they'd ball "Hey you're Kinji!" or "Whoa Yuki's calling me! Cool!" People would let you to the front of the line for saying a famous catch phrase... You could get endorsement gigs, "Hi, I'm the voice of female overlord Guchicon in My Rogue Pizza and I'd like you to buy Soylent Blue...". It would be the awesome!


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suzuri
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on: Tue 13 of Jul, 2004 [04:47 UTC] score: 0.00
While I may not have become an electronic menace, I have been hanging out with 'unsavories' - bike folk. Not the rumbling Harleys, decked in crome, but the sleek, more-or-less silent Surlys and Bianchis. The Schwinns - the Nishikis! It is a hard and dirty crowd. Crusty mesengers, shrewed collectors, hardened racers, callous members of the bike culture. The grease saturated by dirt gets under my fingernails and the walls are graced with bikes that lost in battle with the Motor Vehicle. It's my favorite place.

Yet, I am untested. I can take a bike down to it's component parts, I can reassemble it and ride it away- yet I lack that certain something that drives my companions forward - the endurance to exist solely in that fiction. Therefore, after I have dwelt amongst my new-found family for a time, I find I must retreat and rest. Thus do I return to my humble hidey and spend long hours realxing into the familiar byways of the animated world.

Weather dancing trough the fservs of hidden channels, or hunting down the latest itteration of the same plot line repeated with a new set of charecters, I find peace and rejuvination.

  • * *

on a slightly less poetic note, the computer that hangs out in the shop runs linux, and so I am getting my first taste of that alien OS. Once more I am confronted by a computer I don't know how to use. I have managed to log in and out. On Tuesday I will try to kill a window if it is still up from last Satuday. we'll see.

The coffee shop (well, the whole space, really) is equiped for wireless internet, and I have touched Macs for the first time in two years.

  • * *

and a last note: If you ever hear of me participating in any 'fandubbing', please come and give me a good drubbing, for I should be punished.


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martha
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Re:'cause it's been a while
on: Mon 12 of Jul, 2004 [07:19 UTC] score: 0.00
Suz! Great post!

Perhaps you can become a member of the elite fan dubbing. As a minority amoung anime fans, your voice could become famous in the realms of the dubbing universe. Soon, people with money would be calling you, asking the great Suzuri to add her voice to their commercial rendition of 'Happy Rainbow family' (or as its known in the US, 'Death Squad 4').

You're voice would be as recognized as the American Bebop voice actors... who ever they are...

Ok, how did you become so knowledgable in the warez groups and the shady side of the net? Soon you'll be admidting to hanging out in newsgroups and pilaging gopher servers left unattended out ther... :)




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suzuri, 05:01 UTC, Sat 17 of Mar, 2007: Sooo... How about that local civic group or roller derby team?
martha, 19:52 UTC, Mon 02 of Oct, 2006: No fair, I was in Fresno, I couldn't respond!
suzuri, 21:55 UTC, Sat 23 of Sep, 2006: I'm moving again. I only shout it out here for tradtion's sake. *grin*
martha, 21:00 UTC, Thu 29 of Sep, 2005: VERY LOUD NOISES!
suzuri, 19:35 UTC, Wed 18 of May, 2005: two, too, to, tu...they sound so alike....
suzuri, 19:34 UTC, Wed 18 of May, 2005: Curse the half hour lunch that is fourty-five minutes two short for me to sink my teeth into forum posting! It is my nemisis and my antithisis! I who am chaos incarnarte use fould terms to decry this bloody abuse of my need for income!
suzuri, 17:42 UTC, Tue 08 of Feb, 2005: So. looks like I may be moving south...interview is on Friday. yay.
martha, 06:46 UTC, Wed 29 of Dec, 2004: What words from yonder mountain speaks?
suzuri, 00:48 UTC, Wed 10 of Nov, 2004: I need a new bike.
martha, 22:38 UTC, Fri 05 of Nov, 2004: You think Runescape is bad, you should try this new Tic-Tac-... something game. I think I've played for 85 hours straight now.